• barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    What alarmed Nicholas Reppucci, head of the Charlottesville Office of the Public Defender, is that the enforcers called in to detain the two men in the city Tuesday morning were wearing plain clothes and did not display badges or arrest warrants.

    Presumably, the courthouse is filled with cops and others with arrest authority, so why did they allow two men in plainclothes without badges or warrants leave with two people?

    If the DOGE pirates had been gunned down in the first lobby the invaded, it would have ended there, or at least gone down a different path.

    We should not be normalizing this behavior, and setting precedents. Without a badge, you will not be listened to, and you will leave the building immediately. Without a warrant, you will not be putting your hands on any person. If you attempt to bypass either requirement, you will be arrested. And if you attempt to do enforce your demands by force, you will be shot.

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      On the plus side, if anybody reading this ever has reason to think that they might need to go into a police station and remove someone being held there, apparently if you and a friend or two look sufficiently the part, you can just walk in, in plainclothes, and claim to be Homeland Security, and just… take a dude and leave.

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      I wish they did have the guts to shoot the DOGE team. Especially since the DOGE goons have literally dragged people out and probably physically assaulted others.

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        When they are disappearing people with no due process, the only logical response is violence. Gtfo of here with that dumb shit.

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          I think I’m going to have to seriously think about packing heat on regular basis for the exact scenario the 2nd amendment was written to cover.

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            Not a bad idea, at this point. Just keep it at home, and only have it to defend yourself or others. It is always morally correct to stop a Gestapo agent through any means necessary.

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                It has nothing to do with “chosen” and everything to do with common sense. Wtf would YOU do if a couple of dudes came up to you neighbor, grabbed them and walked off with no explanation or identification? Just shrug, and go about your day? Because that’s what you’re insinuating with this idiotic line of reasoning you’re going down.

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            I’ve been seeing “Americans are pussies for not rising up” and “you won’t vote yourselves out of this situation” on here for months… Which is it? Make up your fucking mind, internet.

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              It’s just the normal anti-American sentiment from fringe idiots around the globe. Anything that has to do with America or the people from there are bad, evil, and needs to be shunned and mocked. Don’t give this guy any weight as a popular opinion from the internet.

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        I mean, isn’t this the exact scenario they wrote in the Second Amendment for? Can’t say this reaction is surprising given it’s at the roots of the country and extensively defended by the Founding Fathers

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          Yeah, funny how the boot lickers forget their whole wet dream of being the ones that rise up, means they need to rebel against the tyrant Trump and his dumbshit sycophants.

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                When you’re acting like an uneducated troglodyte, you will be treated as such. That’s not a uniquely American trait, but you’re welcome to continue wasting air trying to make that statement.

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    The knock-on effect of this now would discourage undocumented migrants even just trying to engage with the legal system, being a witness or even reporting on crimes. For people on the fringes of a society it could lead to even worse exploitation and marginalization

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      While we aren’t seeing it now, it will be a matter of time before those marginalized people start packing and start shooting. Especially when they realize it is a fate worse than death or even just death if they comply.

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    It’s horrifying to see so many incidents of kidnapping in courtrooms. I can’t imagine a more blatant and clear example of subversion of the legal judicial process.

    There would be no reason to remove them from a courtroom if you believed the court would come to the same conclusions they have. So the logical explanation is that they know that what they’re doing is illegal and that these people they’re snatching haven’t actually done anything wrong. It’s shameful that we’ve allowed this to happen in our country and frankly, it’s embarrassing that this is what the once great USA has stooped to.

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      The authorities are assholes. They go for schools and churches and hospitals and courtrooms. They won’t bother with rape cases unless they’re an easy slam dunk. They hold grudges and weaponize their power over people they don’t like. They won’t target gang members when uneducated immigrants are so much easier.

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    First, this is straight up Nazi secret police stuff. Second how did the court know these guys weren’t confederates of the folks in court intending a jail break. Where the FUCK were the bailiffs in this unlawful seizure?

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      Probably people should just start doing just that since apparently it’s that easy, your friend accused of random offences? No problem just walk in and grab them.

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    So three men just kidnapped a dude.

    They need to be banned from doing this in plain clothes. At minumim. At best ICE needs to be abolished.

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      They need to be arrested as attempted kidnappers or shot if they don’t surrender. Then they need to be prosecuted as kidnappers.

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        Just figure out their names and living places. Once the shit is over, hunt them. All of them. And do whatever you like with them.

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    Questioning the security of the courthouse if you can just do that

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      I live here, and I actually called the Sheriff and yelled at her about this. She said these ICE Nazis showed her deputies ID and warrants, and that she couldn’t stop them from entering. She has met with the judges who actually have the power to determine who is allowed entry, asking if they want her office to stop feds in the future. They were still considering it as of yesterday.

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    I’m still baffled as to how they continue to do this unimpeded.

    These people are in court trying to enter the country “the right way” by going through the legal system and are getting ambushed by ICE and Homeland Security during their hearings. Unless the desired outcome is to depress the population of “good ones” trying to stay in the country via legal means by scaring them with the threat of sudden deportation, I don’t see what this accomplishes. This war on immigration is equally as stupid and futile as the war on drugs.

    Xenophobia has completely fried the brains of most Americans. This shit isn’t normal and never should be.

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    They will be coming to your courthouses too. We will have to be organizing citizen barricades to keep them from disappearing our neighbors.