I’m sorry. I can’t offer much but I can give something small. I have suffered from depression a few times in my life and landed on fire to mask it as a protest for whatever.

I didn’t do it obviously it was a very long time ago. 20 years i think and It actually didn’t enter my mind at all when asking this question until I read this comment and remembered my past.

If I ever get that bad again, and I hope I don’t, I promise not to use fire.

Not much but it’s something.

Yeah I grew up on a farm and smelled some pretty bad stuff but it was just a bad smell. If I knew it was human that would be harder even if it smelled mostly the same. It would be psychologically worse.

I know burying a dog that got hit by a car and took a few days to find was worse than finding a missing cow in the same state. I loved the dog, I liked the cows but that dog was my dog. It was worse smell psychologically even tho the cow is bigger and was probably logically more smelly.

Sorry for the double reply but I wanted to give some examples that aren’t related to politics. I’ll use leather because I loved my job selling leather back in the day

Customer “I saw this at another store I went to do you guys get it from the same supplier”

Me: I made that myself. Yeah it’s common when someone comes up with a unique design it often gets reproduced overseas and imported back by stores who prefer that route. I just wish they’d at least pass the cheaper price back to the customer. I’m sure you know (other store) has almost the same price maybe it’s a bit less a dollar or so maybe… I don’t shop there myself obviously, but when you look at reviews… I just don’t hear very many good things about his business personally. This belt is made by us directly and you’ll see similar designs here and there but I can’t guarantee thier quality like I can mine"

What did I really say? Did I say the other store stole my design? No. Did I say they import it from somewhere else? No. Did I say they overcharge? No. Did I say my price was the same? No. Did I say they have bad reviews? No. Did I say I’ve heard bad things about them? No. Did I say his belts weren’t the same quality as mine? No.

I said practically nothing that I dressed up in a tuxedo. That’s sales. Btw I’m never that shady I just know how it works

Edit: one more did I say I invented the design on the belt? No. I just said I did make it. That scallop tooled design has been around for 200 years and everyone knows it. I just said oversees business steal designs. That is true and if you assumed I meant this design… That’s just you. I did not say that.

Edit 2 one more to show me using that skill to help people.

Hardhead: can you make me a keychain that says Harley Davidson on it.

Me: I can engrave names and words on keychains sure. As long as it’s not a trademark or copy write. Names are fine.

Heard head: Harley Davidson like the motorcycles. Can you do that?

Me: if it’s your name or nickname

Hardhead: no it’s the motorcycle company. I ride a Harley.

Me: that would be intellectual property. I can’t do that.

Smarter Friend: go wait outside hardhead… Yes sir I’d like to make a keychain for my friend named Harley Davidson.

Me: absolutely

Smart friend: he was born in 1986 can you put that on there? Also I have a nickname I call him. “Fatboy” put that next to his birth year.

Me: no problem sir.

Sorry for the long replies you did not request its just how wording changes things is fascinating to me lol

Thanks. Ive been a salesman since 16 so I see the stuff he’s doing. Before he ran for president I actually liked trump as a salesman. He was good, still a sleezball and shady but I had respect for the “art” if you will. Not the person.

So I make fun of him a lot and it’s simple for me because it’s just “take sleezy sales strategies I already know, add what I know about trump from the early days and now, a liberal sprinkling of alzheimer’s and garnish with an arrogant god complex.”

That’s a perfect trump speech recipe if you want to try it at home, or for a party.

That’s where you get stuff like

“you wouldn’t believe it” setting your customer up by telling them what they are about to feel. That makes them start to feel that way before you even say the thing.

“Some say it’s more, I could be more, probably more but let’s say 200”

1. fake humble, like you’re giving a conservative estimate when actually you’re doing the opposite. However you specifically did not guarantee more, you just said some people might say that and you might agree. That’s not a lie technically.

“Others said It couldn’t be done” whoever you think those other people might be… That’s who’s lieing to you and I’m now confirming that you can’t trust them. You can trust me because I loved them wrong… And that’s kinda like proving you right isn’t it? Because you didn’t trust whoever you are thinking about and you were right to feel that way. And I’m right and safe. So trust me because we’re basically a team now. Against the people you think I’m talking about.

Anyway that’s enough examples but you can see things like “who said it couldn’t be done” it vague so the customer can fill it in themselves with whoever they want. You can see things like “biden had more than 10 “forms or whatever”” woah I didn’t say ten. I said maybe ten and I think probably, but I also said I didn’t know. It was an opinion not a lie"

Even “Hussain” Obama. The name has negative appeal but it’s just a name not a political stance hell he didn’t even pick it himself. But you dont trust that name so I’m going to make sure you keep hearing it.

Sleezy sleazy sales tactics. And with age he’s gotten worse. I mean he was always a bad person but with age he’s getting worse at the “art” if you will.

And you see I’m quick to accept when I’m wrong.

Plus although I do assume probably too quickly Im quick to ask questions from people who know more.

This I think helps me more than simply not making connections could

That’s good to know. I told another commenter I’m glad to be wrong. I just assumed it would smell like pork because of all the ways pig is used to test things as replacement for human flesh. Being close here doesn’t mean it’s close there. I just assumed and I’m relieved that’s not something people actually have to deal with.

Still obviously a horrible and traumatic thing to deal with but at least it doesn’t ruin Nana’s famous pulled pork. Which is so small and silly compared to dealing with the horrors of a tragedy but… To use a silly example “it sucks I got fired but it would’ve been slightly worse if I got fired and hit my shin on the table while I was being escorted out of the building”. Basically I’m not implying “well then it’s not so bad” just…One small thing I’m glad isn’t part of the problem.

That is a great answer thank you. That was the most horrific part of the question. I’ve never smelled it obviously but I know pirates called it long pork. I’ve heard it described as tasting like pork but only from people who probably were not cannibals. I don’t talk to a lot of cannibals… That I’m aware of anyway. So I only have what I read here and there in articles. I just assumed if humans tasted like pork then we smell like pork.

So I was talking about smells with a friend “bathrooms and air freshener if you’re curious” and my ADHD brain just linked a bunch of useless trivia.

I’m glad to know humans just smell different. It’s probably biological maybe even evolution. Makes sense because in the cave man days anyone who wasn’t disgusted by another dead human enough to run… Probably didn’t survive as long as those that thought “this is something I want to immediately get away from.”

That’s the thing tho nasty and gross I could deal with. I’m no hero like emergency services. I grew up on a farm, raised and processed animals here and there. Stumbled apon missing animals that were long past a pleasant smell. I had a grandmother that was a hoarder, I raised 4 kids…

I’m the one in my family that does the “ewww I just can’t… Please I can’t even talking about it *dry heaves”

My family jokes that I would be the guy in the movie doing an autopsy with his sandwich sitting on the chest of the body.

Now none of that was even close to the mental trauma doctors, police, firefighters face. I also know human decomposition is described as much worse. Id also assume smelling the stuff I’ve smelled from animals probably also hits mentally harder coming from a human. I’m not at all saying “meh I’ve smelled it all”

The point I’m making is terrible smells are bad but seeing something awful and smelling a steak or something good? That seems worse. Like if I drained an abscess in an animal and smelled sugar cookies… I wouldn’t be able to eat sugar cookies anymore. I assume. I don’t really know which is why I’m asking.

But I did read you said a person who died by fire doesn’t smell like steak or food? That’s good to hear. Thats what I was unsettled but curious about.

Old and already answered but I gotta try my hand at it.

We got samples, they said it couldn’t be done but we did it. And everybody i got to say… These samples … No one’s ever seen samples like this. Of you should’ve heard what people were saying they told me (mocking voice) “we can’t get the samples we have to wait” I walked in on day one and got those samples. They said it couldn’t be done, I got samples, I got the better samples they didn’t even want to tell us about but I got em. When I went in they were begging to give me these samples. I said “no. I want the better samples” and we got em.

And the forms. Oh you won’t believe the forms let me tell you about the forms. Barak Hussain Obama… I don’t know if you’ve heard of this guy… He’s scared now, all the democrats are because they’ve been having their friends at the fake news tell you they couldn’t get the forms.

I got the forms, I got the samples and now they’re scared. They are scared because they know I got the best forms and the best samples. They said it couldn’t be done. Ive already made some calls and worked out deals to get 200 forms done. Never been done before, they couldn’t believe it.

Do you know how many forms sleepy Joe got filled out. You wouldn’t believe it 5 maybe 10 maybe who knows. Where are these forms and… AND… they were Terrible forms. The worst… I couldn’t believe it. I asked him “where’s the forms why aren’t we getting the forms”. Day one I got 200 forms some say it’s more, it could be more, I don’t know, probably more. 200 forms can you believe that. The best forms and that’s why they’re scared now. We’ve got more forms, better forms, than probably anyone else in the world. They can’t believe our forms. Their saying “wow look at those forms” they wish they had these forms they can’t believe it… And we’re going to keep going… No one’s ever seen it. never been done before.

Restaurants showing price increase due to min wage increase

Republicans : good people should know

Amazon showing tariff increase

Republicans: HOW DARE YOU!

Festive voice

It’s begining to look a lot like samples

Results on every form.

Do your feet hurt a lot? It sounds like a lot of pressure on a small area

Me too. Unfortunately deep voice also carries. Even my whispers.

Absolutely. I’m just saying I’ve seen this trend with every information source

Wikipedia doesn’t count Snopes doesn’t count Google doesn’t count

Anything can be wrong and I probably shouldnt have dismissed my efforts. I checked the links, they seemed to fit with the information I was provided.

I just warned I didn’t check the charity itself for how well funds were appropriated

The guy arguing submitted a dead charity I mentioned was dead and got upvoteted.

I’m not worried about the down votes I’m just saying my information was the only information when I posted it and better information than the people who hated chatgpt. I also didn’t just copy and paste. I spent exactly ten minutes checking and warning.

So that means the problem wasn’t the information or accuracy. They just hated chatgpt.

Googles dead. Time to move on.

Yeah…that’s what I gathered. People just want to hate chatgpt in the same way they wanted to hate snopes or Wikipedia.

I verified the link I just meant I hadn’t checked if it was a good charity like I would if I donated myself.

Edit: and the guy who posted the dead charity link I warmed about got up voted. They see me using it for information searches as evil like I’m using it to make art or write a book. I use it because Google sucks now.

I know people will memorize bad information. I grew up on the border and I’m always explaining the numbers they say about illegal immigrants aren’t possible. We can’t even evacuate cities before emergencies that fast. Never seems to stick.

Then finding an example should be easy.

Besides it’s irrelevant. You are suggesting someone years from is going to remember the web address I linked but forgot my advice of “check out if it’s legit yourself” which is pretty and basic advice anytime you donate to charity?

Therefore you can’t give me any personal example, you haven’t cited anything from anybody to back anything up, and it’s also completely irrelevant for the topic at hand.

Good job.

No one else has an answer. They were interested in having answer. I found found one.

Don’t compare me to someone speaking nonsense about vaccines. That’s crazy talk.

I was clear open and honest, I even suggested people find their own information. I just offered a jumping off point.

Even if ignoring I provides the answer… It’s pretty silly that you think my one comment on lemmy effects the Internet as a whole. Grown-up.

Good

Not an example