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Opinion: Think that next refresh is going to get better? The first step to freedom is admitting there’s a problem
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Windows 11 isn’t even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.
I think MS shot itself in the foot by doing the whole “we’ll just iterate on this one forever” pivot to data gathering thing. At least in the good old days of Windows Me they could point at the next refresh as a clean break, even if it wasn’t.
I ran Windows Me for maybe a year, by the way. Mostly out of morbid curiosity. It wasn’t even that bad, as I remember it.
Windows 11 isn’t even on the top 3 worst iterations of Windows.
In terms of spyware and enshittification it sure as Hell is!
And that’s the measure that matters here: not mistakes, but deliberate abuse of the user.
Speak for yourself. I’d rather take spyware and enshittification than whatever Windows 8 was.
I can get rid of the spyware and I was never going to use copilot anyway. Vista was Vista all the way through.
At this point, Windows itself is the Spyware. Forced cloud Accounts, AI Features embedded so deeply into the windows core that you can not longer remove it.
The only intro get rid of it is installing Linux or buying a mac
A Mac? To avoid “forced cloud accounts and embedded AI features”?
MS is out here pointing at Apple and going “I learned it from you, dad!” when it comes to those.
Windows 10 is also a privacy nightmare and also has Edge, One drive and ads.
Windows 11 has some nice features and you can use Group Policy to clean it up a bit.
This is very true. There is a very weird endorsement of Windows 10 from the Linux community I do not align with at all. It’s basically the exact same thing.
Especially since a lot of the less palatable features have been patched in backwards fairly dilligently. I use both routinely and there is little functional difference.
Shocking to see a person always defending windows and hating Linux saying this. Shocking!
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Look, I was moving over from 98 and had been messing with 2000. When it came to choosing between constant blue screens or zero software compatibility it was a three way tie.
It’s interesting to see something as mainstream as The Register seriously suggest folks start ditching Windows and their preferred alternative seems to be Linux. Perhaps the year of the Linux Desktop won’t forever be “next year”.
Does it matter though? Just use what you want to use.
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yeah… you can hate it all you want but it is still an OS
Windows might be a habit, but Microsoft is doing a pretty good job in breaking this habit. Many rather jump ship than make the move to Windows 11.
Windows 11 is better than Windows 10 from my experience
It has lots of Microsoft induced pain but it also has a Terminal and good support for modern stuff.
I’m paying Microsoft $9 a month for something and I can’t find out what and can’t cancel it. I’m going to have to nuke my credit card to get it to stop and I don’t even know if that’ll work.
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Oh shit that’s helpful thank you, might be Minecraft I tried to introduce to my kid years ago or something like that? I’ll check thank you
I’m invested. Was it the realms host?
Aye forgot to check yet, thank you for reminding me! ( May Day holidays here) I’ll report back soon. :-)
According to physiology, a bad habit becomes an addiction when it negatively impacts your life.
It’s already an addiction.
Given the number of windows machines that exist, isn’t it already an addiction?
Windows is doing its best to shake me off. It keeps reminding me that it’s ditching Win 10 and I’d better upgrade. Except I won’t, because my (perfectly good) computer isn’t up to spec for 11. So in effect it’s telling me that I’d better hurry up and decide on a Linux distro, tick tock.
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Like Mint?
Although there are probably some better ones specially for old people.But Linux is usually pretty easy for old people, as not much needs to be done after setting it up and it just keeps running.
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What’s wrong with it being for “hobbyists?”
It is great for anyone who wants to actual have control over there own computing. It isn’t and never was for “grannies”
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By that logic it will always be a novelty
The thing is, the real Linux user base isn’t granny. It is the users who are interested in computers or computer related things. Linux isn’t for everybody but it isn’t a novelty either. Being a novelty would mean it is has no functional value which isn’t the case as it does have some market share.
Also there is no reason granny can’t be a computer nerd
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maybe the real linux was in our hearts all along
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no, im pretty sure it was the friends we made along the way. good guess though
ChromeOS preferred young students to grannies actually. 😌
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Mind the upcoming Snapdragon Chromebooks…
I used to put Linux Lite on old, crappy laptops and sell them to little old ladies. All you have to do is show them how to get on the internet.
So, where is the issue?
I installed Fedora a few years back on a PC of an 70 yest old woman. Reason: EOL of windows 7.
Last week I visited her. Fedora is up2date, no issues, und besides the initial guided tour I did not provide any support.
So, apparently, we HAVE already those distributions. So:
what is your point?
