Ok, now ban it. Liberals, this is your moment. Show us that you are capable of cracking down on fascists, even after you failed spectacularly with Israel.

It’s not much but it’s a step in the right direction.

They even tried to restrict VPN companies by passing a bill that forces them to keep logs. Proton was one of the companies that packed up and left. Good VPN companies don’t have servers in India.

*Modi. But yes … he’s kind of a snowflake. Never had a press conference in 11 years, except when he was forced to outside India.

I did think of Nestle as well, and another one, Tata. They’re infamous for stealing land belonging to indigenous people in India. In 2006, the state police of the Orissa government shot 12 people, including a child, in a crowd protesting state-sponsored land grabbing. https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/asa200012007en.pdf

The most iron-rich part of India, Bastar, is also the poorest, and with the most number of Maoist militias. This is no coincidence. Tribal people make up only 9% of the country’s population, but more than 40% of the land used to build ‘development’ projects belonged originally to them. The most mineral rich areas in India, and the world, are some of the poorest because the industries are not publicly owned.

To be honest, I can think of much, much worse. Union Carbide, Adani, Aveo, which was funding a drug epidemic in Nigeria, they’re all bad. There’s no good capitalist.

I think you should read the sidebar.

It’s an unpopular opinion for sure, but I agree. The BBC and AP rarely use the word ‘terrorist’, and really, how is gunman minimising the horror of the deed? It’s a precise word, even if somewhat less emotionally charged than ‘terrorist’. The BBC even got into trouble for using militant in the Oct 7 attack, and the UK government is very pro Israel. I don’t think it’s Modi related.

This is not to condone Pak-funded terrorism, which this undoubtedly was, nothing less than pure evil.

They’ve been trying to block it since that bomb threat which I think turned out to be a hoax. Lots of terror threat hoaxes which I’ve been hearing about in the news. But banning proton because of some edgy idiots is dumb

Who, me? I am not from Burgerland. Also, this was done by Italian communists, not superior, enlightened, liberal European society or something. Where are the left parties in Europe, curbing right wing politics? I don’t see them. Europe is slowly falling for the same right wing politics. Falling profits and rising inequality will lead to the capitalist class propping right wing governments to suppress dissent by using tired talking points like immigration and ‘culture’, and, to paraphrase one among those fellows who hanged Mussolini, capital will not be able to preserve itself without killing liberalism to give way to fascism.

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Reminds me of this: Indian Port Workers Refuse to Load Weapons for Israel’s War

In an interview with the Middle East Eye, T Narendra Rao, general secretary of the Water Transport Workers Federation of India, said they will “boycott” handling of any vessel carrying arms or ammunition or weaponised cargo to Israel.

Workers know what’s up.

“… we have lodged this FIR so that no student or professor can repeat such things.” Tells you everything you should know about ABVP goons.

‘Jindabad’. Who falls for this?

Low effort low hanging fruit from Twitter. Wasn’t Mohammed Hijab involved in some sex scandal or something?

There is no neutrality in occupation. You either condemn crimes or you don’t. I shall assume that the baseline is that the source must condemn heinous crimes. I will admit my own biases; I am pro-liberation, but not pro-terrorism, which differs from my stance on Palestine as Hamas never harmed Palestinians and is genuinely fighting a colonial entity.

There is no understanding this conflict without history. A left-leaning Kashmiri historian had recommended Christopher Snedden’s books to me; I shall pass that along. He is quite sympathetic to independance. For the Pakistani involvement in the conflict, I’d recommend Manoj Joshi’s ‘Lost Rebellion.’ He is an Indian and worked for the government, so bias is inevitable, but he does condemn crimes in the region and has inside insights on the imperialism of both nations. It is a very balanced book. ‘Our Moon Has Blood Clots’ by Rahul Pandita is about the persecution and exodus of Kashmiri Hindus. There are other books but they must be read with a critical eye. I shall not recommend them as I think you aren’t looking for such a deep dive into the historiography of Kashmir.

News sources are difficult. Foreign journalists are banned in the region since 2019, and the press is not free. Indian sources are almost useless without context since they’ll never have the guts to condemn the occupation even if the individual journalist knows better. Liberal media organisations that typically critique the government fearlessly, do not give opinions on Kashmir because breaking India is too far out of the overton window and will never gather public funding, on which these run.

Free Press Kashmir is decent enough for a Kashmiri Muslim perspective. The Kashmir Walla was banned in India, it is also local. Newslaundry did some investigations into press freedom there as well. For human rights violations, JKCCS has some reports, in particular, ‘Torture’ was excellently sourced. It was also censored in India using DNS tampering (I think), seems unbanned now. It is quite harrowing though; do not read if you have a history of trauma.

Edit: if you meant the local news channel I mentioned, I’m afraid you wouldn’t understand it, it was in Marathi.

Racism is when people call you stupid. The stupider you are, the racister it is. Doesn’t matter if I even know your race or not, it must be racism because you said so.

You again apply America-centric standards. ‘Monkey’ has never been a racist insult in India. I literally just referenced a line from Young Sheldon. The fact that your mind jumped right at the racist connotation of the word reveals more about your own mind than mine.

You still refuse to answer any of the points I raised earlier. I shall disengage.

NC has public support? Haven’t they always been sarkari stooges?

Funny how you ignored my comment, refused to read your own article, refused to reply or refute any of my points or even u/mukt’s with anything other than strawman insults. It is clear you aren’t engaging in good faith, and your understanding of India is very poor, as is evident by your replies.

Read monkey, read.

You’re simply cheapening the word genocide by using it everywhere like this. Which government official called for an Israel like bombing in Kashmir? Do you even know India’s stand on Palestine?

India historically has been staunchly pro Palestine. There was a stamp in 1980 in solidarity. Gandhi and Nehru were pro Palestine. India was one of the few countries that opposed the partition of Palestine and the formation of Israel in the UN.

Right now, it has shifted to neutral in the right wing government. To say something so overtly pro Israel would be suicidal, considering its official non alignment stance. However, right wingers do have an affinity to Israel. That is disgusting, but they really aren’t anything more than influencers.

You posted a silly, sensationalist article and didn’t even read it. The government didn’t proclaim anything other than suspension treaties with Pakistan.

My local news channel has been focusing on the kindness and aid provided by Kashmiris who helped tourists after the attack and urging unity. Arnab Goswami is a warmongering clown. The article ignores the countless shows that were positive and focuses on only one show in the media. Every news channel I saw spoke about the one Kashmiri who was killed in the attack. Social media being awful is nothing new in India, we’ve all seen it. Most of my friends and family would be horrified at the notion of bombing Kashmir. These are the actions of a genocidal state? This is why western journalism about India is so shit. They don’t know anything on the ground.

Maybe rely on local journalism that isn’t in the government’s pocket, like newslaundry? Left wing journalism survives in India. Don’t condescend to us. It’s not our fault that western sources barring some investigative journalism are absolutely clueless.

There certainly was disturbing genocidal rhetoric in social media. This is not what a normal society does. But to claim that the central government is going to break every precedent and straight up bomb Kashmir is delusional.

But then again you are defending the Taj Hotel attack so maybe this isn’t worth it.