I do have a real hard time picking all the squares with traffic lights in them…

Literally all the time. Are you some sort of suicide expert?

It is absolutely, and I cannot state this enough, NOT irrelevant. Truth fucking matters.

I agree - corporations killing people 1) does happen and 2) is bad. But in this case, it didn’t happen. I mean… You cant just go around making stuff up. If evidence comes out or is discovered later that shows different, then I will change my mind. That is scientific thinking. Because I don’t have an angle.

Well said thank you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/business/boeing-john-barnett-lawsuit.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Dk8.yNQ6.TlGz67jKE6MN

His own family filed a lawsuit against Boeing that they were responsible for his death by causing his anxiety and depression. Is this the moral equivalent of murder? Probably. Is it the same as pulling the trigger? No. Why not? Because truth, and clarity in speech matter.

What “narrative”? It’s on the Wikipedia page. It’s not a narrative, it’s what happened. Like… I really don’t care that much about this specific case. It’s more about the principle, the erosion of truth, the meaninglessness of facts. It’s honestly the same type of thinking that makes right wing conspiracists and I don’t want to capitulate to it. Focusing on a a salacious and improbable event downplays the real “evils” of capitalism, the smaller but cumulative things: the selfishness, the greed of everyday people and how profit motivated corporations enhance and multiply that. Contrapoints (Natalie Wynn) just did a fantastic video on conspiracies that touches on all three points. I would recommend it to anyone.

How did “one family friend named Jennifer who can’t believe it” turn into “all his family and friends”

That didn’t happen. One grieving family friend said that he said that. John Oliver would have a field day with you people lol. Boeing has hurt and killed a lot of people. They do this like corporations do - by cutting staff, evading regulation, buying politicians. Boeing is liable for great harm. But focusing on these conspiracies rather than getting to the root of the problem – that capitalism enables great harm by eroding our society – isn’t helping.

Do you actually know anyone suicidal? They usually don’t tell people. They often don’t know themselves. They changed their mind. They’re depressed. They’re anxious. They’re not well. They die suddenly. Everyone is surprised. That is how it goes.

So what now we like conspiracy theories when they suit us?

This did not happen.

Lol what? There’s no evidence this happened. It’s up to the conspiracy theorists to provide evidence, which they never do. You cant just be like, prove that DIDNT happen!! Like hello? Has this entire comment thread lost its collective mind? Does truth and evidence mean nothing?

This is it.

I can’t, and I won’t. Thanks

This is one of my all time favorite memes

He literally went :3

I’m not either anymore, still vegetarian tho

Thanks lol

That’s just how eggplant looks. Source: ex-vegan chef