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  • altphoto@lemmy.todayEnglish
    22·
    18 hours ago

    I saw a tree with s few broken branches. Yeah a Christmas tree from last year. Could it run for CEO? I asked if he could please insult a minority group and it said nothing. I asked if he could share secrets and also nothing. It is perfect for the job! It used to be green and it would appreciate some green $$ just like a CEO.

  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish
    282·
    19 hours ago

    This has been directly refuted by the Tesla board, who even told the reporters that it wasn’t true when they were asked before the article was published……then they published it anyway and didn’t include the boards comments lol

        • Billiam@lemmy.worldEnglish
          72·
          16 hours ago

          When Tesla wins a civil suit about this story, then I’ll believe they’re not lying.

          • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish
            22·
            5 hours ago

            So you will believe a rumour based on nothing but won’t believe the board of directors denying said rumour unless they sue? What kind of crazy mindset is that?

            • Billiam@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              4 hours ago

              So you will believe a rumour based on nothing

              Says Tesla. You’re a fool if someone saying “nuh uh!” is good enough for you. Especially when its the reputation of the WSJ vs. the reputation of Tesla.

              won’t believe the board of directors denying said rumour unless they sue?

              Tell me you know absolute dick-all about corporations, without telling me you know dick-all about corporations.

              I’ll give you a hint: what do you think would happen to the stock price of literally any company if the board confirmed they were ousting the CEO before the CEO was out? My dude, your native Australia has a better chance of eliminating every single venomous critter on that island than any corporate board admitting that. And that goes double for the single most overvalued stock on the planet, whose price is driven solely by the hype man’s promises.

              So yes. If and when Tesla sues the WSJ, and wins that case, then I’ll believe they were right. Until then, I’m going to treat them like the lying Nazi-enabling shit car company they are.

              • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish
                11·
                4 hours ago

                So I’m a fool for believing the board members, but you’re not the fool for believing some random journalist printing a rumour with no sources, with nothing even remotely supporting it, who reached out to the company for comment and then refused to print their comment denying it, and printed the unsubstantiated rumour anyway?

                Especially when its the reputation of the WSJ

                I’m assuming you were using this as a way of defending the WSJ, but it really doesn’t.

                I’ll give you a hint: what do you think would happen to the stock price of literally any company if the board confirmed they were ousting the CEO before the CEO was out?

                No comment. No reply. An outright denial leaves them open to all sorts of lawsuits if they then go and do it.

                Your understanding of what companies can and will sue for is remarkably bad.

    • Beej Jorgensen@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      33·
      16 hours ago

      I hope they’re not lying with the denial. If he stays, it’ll drive left wingers to other options, increasing competition. And it might even drive right wingers to start buying EVs in quantity. 😁

  • Thoralf Will@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    702·
    22 hours ago

    If they somehow manage to make Musk sell his shares, Tesla might become a viable company again.

    Until then: I don’t care.

    • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      421·
      22 hours ago

      Idk, even before Musk went full meth head things were already heading south pretty fast - they’d completely squandered their first mover advantage and their “move fast and break things” approach was really starting to take a toll on their brand reputation. Teslas were already starting to be known as expensive cars with terrible build quality, then the constant delays and broken promises about self driving did them no favors either.

      A Tesla made sense when they were pretty much the only really viable luxury EV, but when you can get equivalent cars (with better build quality) from established Western manufacturers for ~75% the price or from a Chinese manufacturer for ~60%, what advantage do they have?

      Musk’s cult of personally is/was a big part of it, so they are kinda screwed either way - the stink of Musk won’t instantly vanish if they get rid of him, and taints everything while he stays

      • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        It really shows how good traditional vehicle manufacturers actually are and the whole worth of Tesla is basically a meme stock. Toyota, Mazda etc are still making cars that run almost new 10 years later.

      • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        The initial cars were the worst (cyber truck excluded) and they had hardware store bodge jobs and overly complex mechanisms. But by the Model 3 they had revised a lot of the problems away, especially on the Model S.

        They were still never built like a Mercedes (or even a VW), but they had improved a lot of the early issues. Then Musk got even nuts-er

      • Thetimefarm@lemm.eeEnglish
        51·
        20 hours ago

        Yeah I think they would have had to slow down or stop sales and make a big deal about reworking their production lines for better QC. Then come back a year or two later with actual improvements. I think Tesla probably have enough brand recognition that they can survive without Musk so hopefully they kick him out.

        I think the US car industry as a whole is due for a major price adjustment, so I kind of see that as it’s own issue. Car prices need to be cut at least in half to make them practical as utility items. We’re being asked to drive vehicles that costs as much as a house did 30 years ago, and are approaching the same size, on the highway and leave them parked inches from each other.

    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.orgEnglish
      413·
      22 hours ago

      Do you know the saying, the revolution devours all its children.

      The electric car revolution is over. Tesla is over.

  • mannycalavera@feddit.ukEnglish
    473·
    22 hours ago

    If and when that cunt leaves you people need to continue the Tesla boycott. The message should be that association with Elon is damaging long term to a company. And not that Elon will bring publicity and notoriety to your company which can be turned into sales and increased market shares long after he’s left. Because that’s how these idiots think. They’ll happily accept short term loss if they think the bounce back after he’s gone will net them even more.

    His brand is toxicity so don’t support any company that works with him. Ever. Treat him like a rapist. Actually maybe that’s a bad idea… if you treat him like a rapist the US will probably elect him their next president 💀🇺🇲.

  • Naich@lemmings.worldEnglish
    482·
    1 day ago

    How about a potato? On the minus side, it doesn’t do anything, but it has the advantage of not being an utter piece of shit that does nazi salutes.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      8·
      21 hours ago

      Reinstate Eberhard and Tarpenning.

      You know, the actual founders, who got forced out after the fascist Afrikaner failson pulled the same corpo tissy tantrum bullshit he did at Paypal?

      All Musk did was follow the general strategic plan for the company that Eberhard and Tarpenning had laid out.

      Then, when that outline was run out, and Elon had to actually think of something else, it all became a total shitshow, quite rapidly.

  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.orgEnglish
    132·
    22 hours ago

    I’ve been expecting this for a good while.

    Rule #1 Never believe his announcements. They may be true or not.

    Rule #2 Always assume that most people believe in him and his announcements.

    Rule #3 After applying the rules #1 and #2, sometimes you can see what he is trying to achieve with the announcement itself.

    Most times it is about inflating his ego. Often it is about pushing (manipulating) the stock market.

    So when he recently announced to "be allocating far more of my time to Tesla.” I immediately thought the hell you want to donate them your oh so precious time, again, suddenly (there would even be admitting a fault in it if he actually did), no you just want the stocks to stay up. And so I concluded that he doesn’t feel like taking responsibility at Tesla anymore.

    • orcrist@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      21 hours ago

      I agree. And there is also a situation like this, where even if the claim is truthful, It doesn’t actually change anything. He could shift from being the CEO to being the number one advisor to the company, and given his ownership, it would still be the same in effect.

  • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
    161·
    1 day ago

    Next weeks news: Tesla board members all die in tragic autodrive mishaps.