• 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    15 hours ago

    US to the people in authoritarian countries:
    why don’t they revolt and take back their country? I’ve made a fool proof plan if you need.

    US when it needs revolution:
    Best I can do is deal with 1 inconvenience in a day.

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    its not a boycott if you are only avoiding them for a single week, and returning to them without any changes being made.

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        Stop calling it a boycott then.

        A boycott is named after Charles Boycott, an English land agent who was cheating his master Lord Erne’s Irish tenant farmers. When they “Boycotted” him in 1880, the local people wouldn’t just not give him money - they wouldn’t interact with him or his agents in any way. Pretended they didn’t exist. Pretended they didn’t hear him or his lackeys speak his lackeys when they went to the shop. Cut them off entirely from their lives.

        It should be noted that then he appealed to British establishment media and the British government sent 1000 police to protect 50 replacement workers - scabs - and provisions delivered from Protestant areas. It cost the Brits £10,000 to harvest £500 worth of crops, but they paid it to send a message. The government is not on your side.

        This was 145 years ago. I know that seems like a lot to most people. In terms of the Irish resistance to British rule, it is remarkably recent. Not only that, but within 35 years, Britain had agreed to Irish home rule (and reneged on it). Within 40 years Ireland was independent.

        In the words of Michael Davitt, leader of the Land League who inspired the protest:

        You must shun him on the roadside when you meet him – you must shun him in the streets of the town – you must shun him in the shop – you must shun him on the fair green and in the market place, and even in the place of worship, by leaving him alone, by putting him in moral Coventry, by isolating him from the rest of the country, as if he were the leper of old – you must show him your detestation of the crime he committed.

        And in the weasel words of Boycott himself:

        My farm is public property; the people wander over it with impunity. My crops are trampled upon, carried away in quantities, and destroyed wholesale. The locks on my gates are smashed, the gates thrown open, the walls thrown down, and the stock driven out on the roads. I can get no workmen to do anything, and my ruin is openly avowed as the object of the Land League unless I throw up everything and leave the country. I say nothing about the danger to my own life, which is apparent to anybody who knows the country.

        Don’t interact with these business. Don’t interact with people who obey these businesses.

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          4 hours ago

          Look, I agree with you, and I avoid those places like the plauge, but I think you’re overestimating how much people care about the details. In an ideal world, yes, all communication would be accurate, but when addressing the masses, you have to use the common definition of words rather yellowstone the technical definition.

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      24 hours ago

      It is if timed properly.

      A true, effective boycot a week before the end of their quarter will fuck up their quarterly earnings reports and hit the stock prices in a way that can’t be balanced out for another 3 months.

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    22 hours ago

    So far so good. I still occasionally have temptations to just order something on Amazon because of convenience and habit, but I can’t really bring myself to do it anymore.

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    Yea, I mean I can imagine even if your anti-consumption, if there aren’t affordable smaller businesses to support or dependable mutual aid services that can provide food for enough people it’s gonna be tough to give up groceries from the monopolized supermarkets. Not saying Americans shouldn’t boycott, but we need to be aware that as long as there’s capitalism, we’re always gonna be choosing between compromised options.

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      1 day ago

      Yup. The corporation that committed the least evil. Because they all cause enslavement, famine, suicide and/or torture, its just a game of who was responsible for the least unnecessary deaths in the last twelve months.

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    23 hours ago

    It’s just not really possible to boycott all three of those. If my kids have a birthday party to go to, those are literally the only three places to buy a toy. That’s true for most of the things I buy, besides groceries.

    So I boycott just Target. Target used to be the least shitty of those three. Except one or two rare occasions where it was necessary, they’ve lost months worth of my business.

    If we can get just one retailer to turn around on their bullshit, then at least we’ll have one place to shop.

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        21 hours ago

        I’d love to support Toys R Us again, but they don’t have a very big selection. Those other options aren’t good for toy shopping. Kids want specific toys.

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          19 hours ago

          Stop making excuses and just Google it. I didn’t even know toys r us was even still a thing before that comment. If you care more about convenience than boycotting just say that, but it’s very much not “impossible” to avoid certain stores if you actually want to.

          Also they’re not your kids? Why would it be your job to get them some specific toy?

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            19 hours ago

            That’s fair - for birthday gifts for my kids’ friends, I can use Toys R Us’s limited selection as long as I remember to get the gift in advance.

            But my own kids have birthdays coming up, and there are some toys I can’t reasonably get any other way.

            Working full time and raising two kids, some convenience is necessary. Life is hard. I’m already making it harder by not going to Target, which is two minutes from my house and sells basically everything I need. I think that’s reasonable, especially since Target is the only one of those companies that’s actually likely to cave to a boycott. But I guess I stumbled into the wrong community to voice that stance.

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      22 hours ago

      Depends on the area but thrift stores can be great for toys - if only because survivorship bias says anything that makes it there will last a long long time.

      Local free groups like Buy Nothing can also be great for sports equipment, school supplies, kid sized furniture etc.

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        21 hours ago

        My own misgivings aside, I’m not giving a thrift store toy as a birthday gift.

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          20 hours ago

          Why? I’ve bought plenty of things from thrift stores that function as if they were new

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            19 hours ago

            Because it would be rude and would create negative social consequences for my kids and myself.

            Even if it is like new, I’m not about to try to convince a suburban mom of that.