Is there a more free version of Alltrails? I find Alltrails to be too paywalled when I don’t even think they deserve my money. What exactly do they even do? The community creates everything and it’s not like they’re contributing to the Maps community or anything.
If you’re up for hosting your own, https://github.com/Flomp/wanderer
That’s beautiful! Add federation and this could really be something I feel (and obviously there’d have to be a few good public servers because fediverse people and hikers probably don’t have a huge overlap).
Just curious, what would federation add to this?
Mainly not having it be centralised. See, I can host my own. My local scout organisation can host their own. Maybe some other regional body can host their own. They have their own thing going, but they also have seamless integration with other services.
For something I’m self-hosting, there’s no way there will be a big user base and a lot of public trails and such crowdsourced. But with a federated alternative I think we could see a very healthy form of crowdsourcing.
Oh yea I see now. So by many users self-hosting and it being federated, it would allow for shared data across instances like trail conditions, weather conditions, new trails, etc. Seems like a great idea
Federation would be incredible!
This is amazing, I need to install this ASAP. Are you using it yourself?
Wonder if there’s some sort of resource to import great hikes from.
I’m afraid not, it’s on my to-do list and has been for a while
A few years ago I’d recommend Gaia, but it’s gone downhill ever since the acquisition. Komoot or onX Backcountry may have what you’re looking for. Caltopo is great for maps, but it’s less user-friendly and doesn’t have curated content.
What exactly do they even do
fwiw hosting, moderating, and curating the community content, plus maintaining a cross-platform app with a fairly polished UI is not free
(source: I work for somewhat of a competitor and I like paying my bills)
Honestly the all trails stuff I don’t even find to be worth it in my area. It doesn’t have the trails, it has “trails.”
i.e. it stitches 5 individual trails together into a mega trail with some roads you have to walk and then says oh look, a 6th trail over here!
I’ve been hiking for years and just use park maps and Google maps.
Komoot might work for you? German, I believe?
Caltopo
I still look at Alltrails sometimes to look for trails and routes. You can download a GPX track with a free account, then upload it to whatever app you want.
Caltopo is amazing. The app sucks. The web app is the best tool for the job though.
Tbh I use caltopo on my computer to make maps and Garmin Explore on my phone because I have an Inreach
Yeah that’s the move. Caltopo is easily the most useful tool on the internet for hiking. I just wish the android app was full featured.
